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Music hello this is Matthew Hill for the hill and Ponton be a video blog I'm here with Carol Ponton and we're doing a series on what we consider the big mistakes that veterans make that we see again and again that end up hurting your claim and today we want to talk to you about unemployability and there's always a question as far as when to file unemployability and just real quick unemployability is essentially a way to get 100% rating when your combined ratings don't go up 200% but essentially when the VA knows that you can't work because your VA disabilities then they give you an employability and pay run percent so you only need to have you're not working because of your service-connected problem and if you get exactly the same benefits as you would for the hundred percent if the VA adds your ratings all add up to one hundred percent so it's a really important benefit but what we find is people don't file that they will file say a veteran is trying to get a higher rating for PTSD and they can't work because of the PTSD as soon as they start filing for PTSD base and they're not working they should file for unemployed the unemployability you file a form it's an eighty nine forty okay and you file that it shows where you last worked and you're not working now and you're not working because of whatever the question is at the PTSD now if you haven't gotten service-connected to say for the PTSD then they're going to deny you the unemployability but when you win your case for PTSD then that unemployability claims before them and they have to make a decision what we find is people wait until their service-connected then they saw unemployability in the VA if they give them benefits they started when they filed that kind right and so they did a couple things one they started all over again but - they put that claim illness in the back of the line know what Carol saying is is if your backs not service-connected right now but you're filing for it and that's what's keeping you out of work and you file the unemployability you'll probably have people say well what are you doing you're not even is connected yet but essentially what you're doing is keeping those two issues together unemployability according to the Veterans Court is part and parcel of a claim so it would be part of the backplane implicitly and that it's just part of the rating so you get service-connected and that's part of the rating but what they do is that if you haven't filed as its own claim then even when you get service-connected you file it they're going to treat it as a new claim separate claim so you wait but then on top of that they what they give you the wrong effective date they say.